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This page is about the knives hand and custom made here in Enchanted Spirits Studio for culinary use, and is dedicated to chef's knives and cutlery, kitchen knives, cook's knives, professional food service knives, meal prep knives, tools, and accessories comprising of but not limited to cutting tools, knives, choppers, cleavers, used to and for slicking, slicing, chunking, julienne, butterfly, chopping spices, cubing, dicing, scoring, shredding, brunoise, preparing stir-fry, slicing bread, fining, grinding, carving, and separating foods, ingredients, and components. I've included some topics that I hope you will find worthwhile, and also included thumbnail photographs in captioned boxes with the name of the individual knives. If there is a featured page about the knife, the name is linked to that page. As with all my pages, I'll continually add new projects and knives as they are completed.
While you read this page, you'll probably realize that a lot of what you think, have heard, or read about common chef's and kitchen knives is the result of mass marketing hyperbole created to sell volume knives rather than to fill a critical need for a reliable, well-made tool and adjunct to the cooking or meal prep experience. Manufacturers, boutique shops, factories, and knife makers are all after the same thing, which is making and selling as many knives as possible. Though my personal drive is to make and sell also, my perspective is not selling units in high volume, but making and selling what are completely and clearly the very best fine chef's and kitchen knives available in our modern times. They produce and sell quantity; I create and sell quality. This is the simple difference that sets my knives, my work, and my passion apart. This distinction is also what I instill in the two makers who are now creating their own collaborative pieces in Enchanted Spirits Studio, Rusty Russom and James Beauchamp .
By the time you are finished reading this page and the related and linked pages, I promise that you will know more than most people, more than most chefs, more than most knife collectors, and even more than most manufacturers about what constitutes a finely made chef's knife. While others may offer you baseless generalities, notions of great traditional histories, vague and non-specific ideals about their knives alongside tiny photos and very little useful information or specs, I will offer facts, specific descriptions, very clear and abundant evaluations and comparisons for your consideration. Armed with this concrete knowledge, I believe that you will be better equipped to purchase any chef's knife from any source for the purpose you intend.
You deserve a fine knife for your most important and frequent knife duty, task, and passion.
Thanks for being here!
Great Knife..such balance no hand fatigue and sharp too.
With that knife in my kitchen. . . I am a surgeon--- not a butcher.
-- B. M.
Chef and meal prep knives and cutlery are the most common knives seen. Every household has these kind of knives, and they probably see the most duty of any knife. Newer kitchens are equipped with the best appliances, finest counters, floors, and walls, best modern lighting, and newest and most efficient modern cookware as well as modern, well-designed tools, cookware, utensils, and accessories. At the forefront of every meal preparation with fresh, healthy, and delicious food is the knife.
The knife is where the meal starts, and it should be the most reliable, durable, distinctive, and useful tool in the kitchen, because it is the tool that physically creates prepared food from raw meat and produce. How the chef lives through the work of the knife will translate into how the meal experience occurs for others around him. The chef should be eager and excited about the prospect of picking up his knife in his hand, at his board, in his kitchen with his tools and appliances to create his unique meal. The use of the knife should be a flowing, fluid, and comfortable experience, and when it is, the preparation of the meal becomes a creative and wonderful event for not only the chef, but also his friends, clients, patrons, or family.
The tools and utensils of the modern kitchen are the most advanced and wonderful they have ever been in history. We are all lucky to be living in our modern world, and the chefs of the past would be astounded at what we have available in even the most modest kitchen environment. Though there have been a few new inventions in the culinary world, the major change in the world of the chef in historic times has been refinement. Meat and produce have been refined and cultured, cookware has been improved, and appliances have brought the chef out of the smoky fires of antiquity into the clean and efficient creation space of the modern kitchen. The cooking experience itself has been meticulously and accurately refined as art across many mediums and cultures.
Since the knife is the central focus of the cooking experience, it is important to be knowledgeable and well-informed about chef's knives. Thankfully, we also have refined our information technology to a high degree, and more detailed, specific and clear information is available from worthwhile sources to more people than has ever been available before in history! Right now, you are reading this because of refined information technology. The interpretation, direction, specifics, and art of knives is now available from metals artists and craftsmen like myself for anyone to see, at any time, in the privacy and time frame of their own personal choosing. I feel very lucky and thankful that you are reading this now, and understand that I have a great deal to offer based on my own practice, experience, and art in this field. I consider it an obligation and responsibility of the service aspect to may clients, my trade, and my art.
In my field, I have made many, many knives. Every knife I've made has been a refinement of at least one of several attributes. An attribute is simply a logic, quality, characteristic, property, philosophy, or character. On the surface this may seem a heavy group of considerations, but I want you, my reader, to know exactly why handmade custom knives and my knives in particular are worth many times what is commonly available.
Logic: My professional logic is that I want to create and supply the finest knives available in our modern world, with modern materials and techniques, to some of the finest chefs and clients, whether they are cooking at home, as a profession, or are determined to become fine chefs. I strive to create designs that are logical, for uses in the real kitchen, with reasonable and dependable geometries, materials, finishes, and accessories.
Quality: My standard is to create the highest quality knife, tool, and work of art that is possible in modern technology and process. Like my fine Tactical Combat Knives, I am determined to make only the very best. I use the finest modern corrosion resistant tool steels available, with modern and specific processes of heat treating, tempering, and testing with professional apparatus, in house, here at Enchanted Spirits Studio. I use the most modern and refined fittings, designs, and finishes on the most durable handle materials possible for each knife. The fit, finish, and accuracy of each component is of the highest quality, whether it's on one of my sole authorship knives or one of our collaboratives created in the studio. The quality of the knife is matched by any accessory that accompanies it, and my clients and patrons are assured they are acquiring the very best.
Characteristics of the fine modern chef's knife vary widely, perhaps more than any other type of knife known. Since there are many different processes that the chef's knife must complete, there is a great variety of blade styles and shapes, grinds and finishes, handles and forms. Chef's knives may perform delicate tasks requiring thin, hard blades, other chef's knives may need an improved and refined grip to apply great force with extended blade toughness. The characteristics of each individual knife determine which one you reach for in the block, sheath, or roll, depending on the task you have in the kitchen.
Properties of each knife distinguish them from others. For example, making a knife from modern high chromium martensitic tool steel distinguishes the knife from one made of 1095 plain carbon steel by many orders of magnitude. The property of a gemstone handle distinguishes the well-made fine tool from a factory knife that has a polypropylene molded handle. Properties of fine handmade chef's knives instantly set them apart from mass produced knives in every way: materials, finish, design, embellishment, fit, finish, accessories, and service.
My Philosophy of my chef's knives is unique. While every individual maker may say that his works and philosophy about the knives he creates is unique, I actually detail these specific distinctions on this very page, and on the 500 other pages on this very website for all to see. There is no mystery about why I make the knives I do or how I do it, I believe this field should be modern, transparent, evolving, and inviting to all who are interested in fine knives. One could boil down this philosophy quite simply: I am a full time professional knife maker, artist, and writer who does my very best to create the finest modern handmade knife and work of art for each individual client.
The Character of each knife, group of knives, or art project are what sets it apart as distinctive. No other knives look like or have the character of the knives I create, and that specific character appeals to each client, patron, or chef in a very personal way. The character of the fine, modern handmade and custom knife will prohibit it from ever being grouped in the endless clones of production work, replicas, primitive, or manufactured items, and exhibit the personality of the owner who appreciates finely crafted works of art as well as tools.
The only way to experience unique logic, high quality, refined characteristics, specific properties, and share the philosophy of the knife and maker as well as own a chef's knife or set with distinctive character is through a custom knife maker. Even if the knife or set is not made to order, its unique attributes can only be experienced through this very personal and exclusive approach. How is this done? Through conversation. Email me here to discuss your project or idea!
Mr. Fisher,
It is just before midnight here in NYC, just walked in the door,
home from a long day at the restaurant. To my surprise was a FedEx
box waiting for me in the hallway. I am normally a pretty collected
individual, however I was like a kid on Christmas as I opened the box.
I am beyond impressed with the knife, it truly is a work of art
and great craftsmanship rolled into one. From the sheath, to the
balance of the blade, to the beautifully sculpted handle, I really
could not ask for more. You have a great talent and I thank you for
putting such time, effort and precision into this knife, it will be
cherished for a lifetime.
Thank you again Mr. Fisher.
Sincerely,
L. C. G.
Interest in fine chef's knives is on the rise. This is probably because as factory produced knives increase in cost, the investment to properly outfit and equip a chef approaches that of custom knifemakers. Most professional chefs are covetous of their knives and tools, indeed a fine custom knife set can personalize, identify, and set a chef apart. Ask a professional chef what he most values and he'll probably tell you his knives. What kind of knives equip a custom kitchen or chef identifies his passion for the culinary arts.
You might wonder why few of the top chefs are publicly seen with custom knives. My interpretations of this cover several dimensions.
Extremely fine, well-designed and handmade chef's knives can be works of art. In my own works, every knife is absolutely distinctive, and I strive to bring to solid form the energy of the activity expected of these original works. In the form of the knife, you will see the movement, feel the grip, sense the slice easing through the subject of your dishes. If I can't create that in the form of the knife, it is not worth the dedication.
At the basis of the knife's artistic vision lies its form and function. The very foundation of a fine chef's knife is the most substantial consideration that not only sets it apart in the realm of knives, but also offers the physical basis and traits that will establish its value. If you want to know the exact basis for the fine knife when compared to inferior knives, I've detailed the specifics in the next sections. As promised, by the time you have finished reading this page, you will know more about fine, handmade, and custom chef's knives than most other chefs, factories, or other knife makers!
Please read the wisdom box above again. This perception: a chef steeling a knife, is a persistent and cultural icon, often played in the media as a defining activity. When one sees a chef, he's got a white smock on, perhaps an apron, and he is steeling a knife. Why is he steeling his knife? Because it is dull. It starts out dull, and dulls easily, and dulls frequently, so he steels and steels and steels... After a while, he becomes pretty quick at the motions, and may even make it look effortless, like some graceful flourish before the cut. To a maker of fine custom knives, however, this action screams out, "Help! My knife is dull, it's continually dull, and I can't keep it reliably sharp!"
I consider it my duty as a maker of extremely fine chef's knives to help the chef out. But I can not help him if he has a low grade, inferior, and weak blade steel. The foundation for every knife is the blade, and the blade is made of tool steel (or should be). The fine knife blade should not be a low alloy, old world style carbon steel, but the finest engineered, most modern, highest quality, refined, clean, and scientifically made, machined, ground, and finished tool steel we have available. A good piece of professional chef's cutlery simply starts with the foundation of an exceptional blade. This doesn't only mean an ornamental blade, although style, appearance, and artistic value can be well-applied here.
Evening Jay,
I wanted to give you a proper testimonial now that I've had time to use Sirona at work for a day.
I couldn't wait to bring out Sirona at work, everyone noticed the shining mirror polish immediately
while I was getting ready to small dice about 150 tomatoes to keep the restaurant stocked for the day.
Sirona was well up to the task. The knife felt like an extension of my hand, and the extra weight
also feels good, knowing that I'm not using some flimsy piece of carbon steel that I'm so used to.
After seeing in person how good a knife could be, my first thought was that I can't wait to order
my next two! It was a pleasure to speak with you on the phone and I look forward to doing business
with you in the future.
--A.
The fittings of a fine chef's or kitchen knife consist of the bolsters, pins, ferrules, guards, pommels, and other fastening agents or mechanisms that mount and solidify the handles, strengthen the blade to handle junction, and protect the vulnerable parts of the knife and handle. They can also create or enhance grip areas, aid in corrosion prevention and create easy maintenance and cleaning. Some fittings allow areas for embellishment, personalization, and distinction.
The chef's knife handle can be an individual affair, and I'm often asked to make very distinctive and specifically designed handles. There is a reason for this. The distinctive and well-made knife handle is what often sets the individual knife apart from every other knife in the world.
Here are some emails that illustrate one of the typical and looming issues of poorly made knives. Sadly, these knives are touted as "The Best Chef's Knives" by the factories that sell them.
Jay, I have a Sabatier boning knife with a broken 3-rivet Micarta handle. Would you give me a
price for replacing the handle?
Thanks.
B. L.
Three rivets is a very poor way to mount a handle on any knife, yet you will see this over and over in all types of knives. Why are handle scales mounted this way? It's because it is cheap and fast for the manufacturer, maker, or factory. It is not because of any advantage to the owner or user of a knife. They will eventually fail.
Jay,
I saw on your page that you won't re-handle knives. That being said, and understood - I have a 5 original
Hoffritz kitchen knives from the late 70's that have migrated through the family and that I absolutely love.
The wood has delaminated and I am looking for them to be re-handled with manmade materials.
Please advise if you would be interested in this re-handling and cleaning up the blades or if
not, can you recommend someone that might be.
Thank you.
-Steve
Okay, he absolutely loves the knives except for the handles coming apart thing... If he took the same interest in a really fine knife or knives, he would be handing them down to his grandchildren with handles intact. By the way, the steel in these knives is the French version of cheap 420 series stainless steels, with a little more carbon. Boy would he be impressed with a good piece of 440C! The website for these knives claims (of course) that it is the "finest grade of cutlery steel available," which could be true if all you have available is the steel you happen to use... see how vague and misleading these claims are? Sigh...
Accessories and accoutrements for fine chef's knives are a broad, expansive, and exciting subject. Accessories may include sheaths, slip protectors, blocks, stands, bowls, and even cutting boards exclusively made for the kitchen.
Jay,
Now that I have had the chance to use the Vega chef's knife for several
weeks, I wanted to write to you and let you know how fantastic it is.
First, the knife itself is a thing of beauty. The hollow grind is a
work of art. The gemstone handle is stunning, the filework adds to the
whole package and the finish is flawless. It is almost too pretty to
use, but use it I have. The knife is large but it is so well balanced
that my wrist does not fatigue even with large cooking tasks. The edge
is so sharp that it glides through everything I have used it on. I look
forward now even to what were formerly mundane chopping tasks. Dicing
onions can become the highlight of my day! I have many knives that I do
not use ("collector's pieces"), but it is
so much more rewarding to develop a working relationship with a
fine blade.; I can't tell you how pleased I am. I am looking forward
to getting my Cyele. You are a master craftsman.
Thanks,
D. E.
Many of us older guys grew up with our fathers boasting about their carbon steel butcher knives and how they were so much better than the stainless steel blades. Unfortunately, this is one of the most prevalent and enduring misconceptions and wives' tales that persists in the modern world of knives.
The problem started when Japanese stainless steels were introduced into the world of cheap kitchen knives in the 1960s and 1970s. If you were alive then, you remember the ridiculous commercials showing the cheap imported junk knives pounded through cinder blocks and then shaving off tomato slices. The common man ate up this drivel, and lots of money was made in the low-end kitchen knife market based on this hype. The truth is, this type of knife was made of cheap, springy, and thin low-carbon series stainless steels, which were tough, but not hard or wear-resistant. So when the edges did wear down, it was not reasonable to sharpen them, and they were left dull in the kitchen, but were still thin enough to be forced through foodstuffs. Most people then made a casual assumption that the stainless steel blades were of low value (the price was a good hint), and saved their most important cutting chores to high carbon, non-stainless steel butcher knives, because they were relatively easy to sharpen and they held a very keen edge a longer time than the imports.
The stainless steel is no good myth continued, and continues today, despite the fact that the majority of knives from cheap imports to fine collectors knives are made of stainless steel. Some people still long for the good old carbon steel knives from the past.
One of the world's most respected knife historians and experts writes:
"I have owned about 10,000 antique kitchen and butcher knives, and examined perhaps 20 times that number. I have found that good quality modern stainless steel knives, when properly sharpened, are superior in use to all older knives, even the very best. Stainless steel knives can be made at least as sharp as carbon steel ones, they stay sharp many times longer, and of course, they do not stain... the president of a major knife company put it very well when he said to me that preferring carbon steel knives over stainless steel ones is like preferring vacuum tube radios over transistor ones."
--Bernard Levine, Levine's Guide to Knives, 1985
Please look at the date of the above excerpt. Since the mid-eighties, there have been many new and improved stainless tool steels become available, so the old wife's tale is even more flawed. One of the problems does continue, however, and that is the infomercial that still claims cheap Asian imported knives are worth your hard-earned money.
This myth of carbon steels extends into the handmade knife field, and bears examination. Carbon steels, properly identified as Plain Carbon Steels by the AISI, SAE, ASME, NSI and ANSI are typically are identified by number. If the four digit number starts with 10, it is a plain carbon steel.
Typically, in the knife trade and industry, 1025, 1075, 1080, and 1095 are often used. 1095 is about the best one can get for a plain carbon steel, as it has up to 1% carbon. It has manganese in it to increase forgeability, reduce brittleness, and improve hardenability, though the manganese does not itself improve hardness. No other notable alloy elements are included. These steels are usually chosen because they are inexpensive (cheap), usually about one fourth of the cost of stainless tool steels, and one tenth the cost of crucible particle metallurgy tool steels. They are easy to work, are ductile and soft when annealed, and are gentle on tools and abrasives. Simply put, it is easy, cheap, and fast to make a knife from any of these steels. They have absolutely no corrosion resistance, and will quickly and easily rust and pit when left in the open air. They are easy to sharpen because they are not wear-resistant, and they frequently dull. In the real world, they are a bad steel for any knife, and in particular for kitchen or chef's knives.
Another commonly seen type of knife steel used by makers and the knife industry is 5160. Though technically classified as a chromium steel, 5160 has very little chromium (.08% - 1.0%) and is not corrosion resistant in any way. The chromium is added to slightly improve the hardenability, but not enough is added to increase corrosion resistance or aid in the creation of chromium carbides which can increase wear resistance. The chromium is limited because if added in significant quantities, the forging and critical temperatures of the steel would be raised enough to prevent hand-forging. Though this steel has better performance characteristics than the 10XX series, it is still not suitable for kitchen or chef's knives, simply because it easily and readily rusts in the open air, and does not have high wear resistance. It is chosen also because it is a cheap steel, one fourth the cost of stainless tool steels, one tenth the cost of crucible particle metallurgy tool steels, and is easier to machine, cheaper to finish, and more forgiving to make a knife with.
Simply put, these are cheap steels, and have no place at the top of the line for extremely fine chef's knives (now you may begin to wonder why they are used in ANY knife blade!).
Damascus: A brief note about damascus here: what we call damascus today is pattern welded layered steel, and not the true damascus (which is ancient crucible-made steel, the actual recipes long ago lost to the ages). Any pattern welded damascus knife is limited by its weakest component's properties and the amount and integrity of the many welds in the billet. While damascus knives are attractive (I make them myself occasionally), they are valuable mainly for their decorative appeal; they will never outperform high alloy professional grade homogenous tool steels and are limited to the properties of their highest alloy metal. For instance, a pattern welded damascus knife made of O1 and A36 structural steel is only as strong as the O1, and overall is less wear resistant than the O1 because part of the blade is A36 which quickly wears away. What you are buying is the appearance of hand-forging, and the decorative appearance of the blade surface. While many of these are offered as kitchen and chef's knives, only the all-stainless steel models should be considered. For instance I use a stainless damascus steel that is made of 19C27 and 302 stainless steels. The 19C27 is the stainless tool steel, and the 302 is the low carbon, highly corrosion resistant stainless steel that forms the remainder of the blade. Both of these steels are stainless, and highly corrosion resistant. Please note that the wear resistance of 19C27 is inferior to 440C, simply because it has less carbon (.60%) than 440C (1.00%). However, the performance is good. The stainless damascus steels are the only types of damascus that should be used for chef's or kitchen knives.
Non-stainless Damascus? NO! don't do it! The carbon steel damascus knives will rust, corrode, stain, pit, and stink. Yet this is the majority of Japanese, and many of the American damascus blade steels touted for chef's knives. These are carbon steels, and they are not corrosion resistant in any way. The will corrode immediately, at the cutting edge, and dull quickly and frequently. Worse, any steel that corrodes ends up in the food. If you don't think this matters, here's a few points to consider:
While some people don't care if a little carbon steel ends up in their food, why invite the taste at all? That, coupled with the extremely high wear rate, weaker overall structure, and requirement of constant upkeep to keep corrosion at bay is the reason carbon steel damascus (and plain carbon steel) blades should not be sold for chef's knives.
It's incredible today to see guys calling themselves "master knifemakers" who are making hammered and dirty open-furnace carbon steel knives from plain carbon steels that rust, corrode, and are markedly weaker, softer and inferior to high alloy stainless tool steels, and even more incredible that people who use knives are so grossly undereducated about fine knives that they think these are somehow the best! The finest high alloy tool steels are used in the most advanced industries and highest wear applications, and you won't find one hand-forged tool, blade, cutter, or part in any professional industrial application. If hand-forged (open air furnace, hammer on anvil, trip hammer and hydraulic press) steels performed better, wouldn't you see them in industrial, military, or professional operations? Of course you would, and since there are no hand-forged ball bearings, no hand-forged metal stamping dies, no hand-forged sheet metal shear blades, no hand-forged injection molding dies, and no hand-forged high pressure corrosion resistant valve seats, no hand-forged parts whatever in any modern industrial application, that should make you think! Understand that these are inferior metals, formed by primitive and inferior processes. They can never have the value, performance, or longevity of professional high alloy tool steels.
The finest high alloy tool steels are used in the most advanced industries and highest wear applications, and you won't find one hand-forged tool, blade, cutter, or part in any professional industrial application.
What are the advantages of the better steels? There are many, and they are substantial. These modern, engineered, fine isotropic tool steels are created for the distinct application of creating tools and wear-resistant parts and cutting edges. They are simply the finest tool steels humanity has ever produced. In the application of blades for chef's knives and any other type of knife, there are some distinctive advantages, mainly high corrosion resistance, high wear resistance, high toughness, high tensile strength, and high finish value.
The finest high alloy tool steels are used in the most advanced industries and highest wear applications, and you won't find one hand-forged tool, blade, cutter, or part in any professional industrial application.
You might then ask the question of why these higher value, extremely fine steels are less often seen on kitchen or chef's knives. It's really very simple. They are expensive, they are very difficult to machine, cut, and make a knife with, they are unforgiving of error or mistake by the maker, they are hard to work, resistant to abrasives, and a supreme challenge to properly finish. They require special treatment in vacuum-nitrogen furnaces or controlled atmosphere environments when heat treating, they require extremely high critical temperature transformation points, and extremely low temperature quenching points, they are demanding and specific in their treatment to yield a superior cutting blade and knife. This is why they cost more to the chef, and why most makers and manufacturers do not offer these steels on their knives. This is the price for being the very best.
Learn more about the details of these steels on my Blades page at this bookmark.
If you're going to pay over $1000.00 for a knife, you owe it to yourself to get educated
I was shocked when I read on a knife maker's website that "Chromium prevents the steel from rusting but significantly degrades edge holding capabilities of the steel. All steels are composed of grains of the various alloying elements, the relatively large size of chromium results in a blade that will quickly dull and be very difficult to re-sharpen."
I was saddened when I read this, because it's completely wrong. It was easy to see why this guy wrote this; he's making damascus chef's knives, knives with blades out of 52100 plain carbon steel, and he's trying to paint a better picture of his plain carbon steel.
If you buy this guy's statements you are, sadly, misinformed. Let's get this very straight and clear. Chromium is an alloy that HELPS hardness, hardenability, and wear resistance, in many instances forming chromium carbides which are extremely hard and wear-resistant, quite the opposite of what this guy claims. It's unfortunate that he hasn't educated himself by reading a book on tool steels and metallurgy before he made such horrid misrepresentations on his web site. From the Machinist's guide and AISI standards: "Chromium improves hardenability, and together with high carbon provides both wear resistance and toughness, a combination valuable in tool applications." What? How could this be unclear? Why would this fellow make such a ridiculous claim?
It's probably very simple. He's making chef's knives from 52100 plain carbon steel, and he's trying to justify why you should purchase a lesser steel blade from him. 52100 is the worst type of steel for chef's knives, it will rust at the first opportunity, and is not even a tool steel. 52100 is listed (in machinist's and AISI standards) as "a straight chromium electric furnace steel, and is of medium hardenability." A couple things stand out here:
From this, the misconceptions are pretty clear; he is either uneducated or he's lying. He drones on about the grain size of the various steels (which has nothing to do with wear resistance), and the "bonding" between the grains (which is just gibberish and nonsense), trying to convince the reader that somehow the cheaper, lesser plain carbon steel is somehow better than chromium tool steels.
Look, it's okay to make a knife from 52100 plain carbon steel; many makers do. It's a decent steel, and can be hammered into a wear-resistant knife blade with limited use. But to claim it's somehow superior to high chromium and high alloy tool steels is just a lie; it is far inferior to high alloy tool steels, that's why they are the premium materials in the finest knives, tools, instruments, and components in wear-resistant industrial applications. In any case, this is not the type of steel for any chef's knife, as it will corrode away at every opportunity, at the cutting edge, on the surface, and in any part of the blade where moisture from any source contacts it. It will stain, rust, pit and stink, as it corrodes into your food. This application for the kitchen is just wrong.
There is endless discussion among knife people and chefs about knives: their construction, the materials, the design, shapes, and geometry. The argument of flat grind vs. hollow grind invariably comes up. I go into those differences in great detail on my Blades page.
The first main concern of a chef is the cutting edge. Is the edge razor sharp? After repeated sharpenings, will the blade geometry and the cross section be thin enough to allow another razor edge? After more and more sharpenings, and as the blade is used up (in a custom handmade knife, this should be decades), will the grind allow a thin enough steel to allow a low sharpening angle, and a razor edge? The reality is that flat ground blades thicken at a faster rate of use than a hollow grind, unless they are very thin (.0625" or less). This is clearly illustrated and described in detail on the Blades page at this topic. That is why that the hollow-ground straight razor has the keenest, sharpest, most formidable cutting edge. It is very thin at the edge, and therefore can be made very sharp. That is why all cutting edges are even today verbally compared to a razor: specifically, a hollow-ground straight razor.
This does not mean that flat grinds can not also be very thin and sharp; they can. Usually, a flat grind is used on a chef's knife that does not have substantial thickness in the spine, and is very thin anyway (1/16" or less). I use flat grinds, too, and only on extremely thin stock, as my clients greatly prefer and appreciate my thin hollow grinds. A flat grind often has a problem of foodstuffs stick to the flat side of the blade because of surface tension, and the hollow grind can allow air to come between the steel and the material being cut, allowing a cleaner release. Addition of milled holes, slots, and surface texture may help both knives.
Because the cutting edge and the cross-sectional blade geometry just behind the cutting edge must be very thin, flat ground knives used by chefs are usually very thin and lightweight. This often is in opposition to hollow ground knives which are heavier, stronger, and usually have more weight and substance at the spine. This is a design consideration, and if lightweight, super-thin knives are desired the flat or taper grind may be the way to go.
The largest consideration here is usually overlooked by knife buyers, and that is one of manufacturing. It is far easier and cheaper to flat grind a knife with automated equipment than to hollow grind and mirror finish. The same can be said of unskilled labor. A flat grind can be done completely by machines and jigs and untrained hands, but the hollow grind can not be, particularly when both types of grinds are finely finished. Any machine can do an initial rough grind, but not a finished grind. Without going into technical specifics (I'll do so in my book), I'll say simply that machine finishes of flat grinds are simpler and cheaper, and manufacturers know this, and extensively hype flat knives to keep their manufacturing costs low. Consider this: there are several firms that sell blade stock pre-ground into flat beveled shapes to further cheapen the manufacturing process. Also, a very thin piece of steel is cheaper overall, so the investment in materials by the manufactures is lower.
Knife design, finish, and purchase is a matter of informed choices. I'm thankful that my clients have chosen me, and I'll continue to listen to their input, and make the very best possible knife, a knife that will be used and admired for generations. I usually hollow ground knife blades because that offers the thinnest cutting edge for the longest time after repeated sharpenings, and highest value of any knife grind for my clients, patrons, chefs, and knife users. That's what this is all about.
Return to TopicsIf you look long enough at this page, you'll be able to spot my bread knives by the serrations on the blade. This type of serration has evolved in my own work and from use and customer feedback over the decades. The shape of the blade is specifically suited to penetrate hard crusted loaves, yet cut through soft bread with a minimum of tearing. Bread is especially difficult to slice, because of the differing hardness of in the loaf. If a knife edge were super-thin and smooth, it would be perfect for cutting thin slices of the softer parts (like a scalpel), but would merely glide over the hard and sometimes tough crust. Add nuts or other hard or tough material to the loaf, and the task becomes even more difficult. The shape of these arcing theatre curtain serrations creates enough localized pressure to penetrate the crusts, and offer enough angled edges to slice inside the softer parts. The edge is hand cut and extremely thin, sharp and keen all along the serration curves. The feedback from these knives has been great. You won't see this much on factory knives, as the blade shape and grind can only usually be hand-made and must be hand-sharpened. Factories are only interested in serrations that can be milled on automated machinery, thus the frequent appearance of small, machine-cut teeth to create a more aggressive cutting edge. Factory serrations created this way will tear through most breads creating plenty of crumbs. Great for the knife manufacturer, not so great for performance.
Return to TopicsOn some of my larger chef's knives: master knives like the Saussure and the Vega, you'll see an arrangement of holes through the blades. These have several purposes. The first is to create a means of breaking the surface tension (some call it vacuum) that happens when cutting wet vegetables, fruits, and some meats. You've no doubt experienced this problem and had to take the time to drag the flat part of the blade over the edge of the cutting board, or bowl or even use your fingers to clear the blade. This is never a good idea, because dragging the blade over the corner of anything can mar, scuff, or scratch the finished surface of the blade or the object, and the cutting edge can slice into the bowl, board, or pan. Obviously, the fingers should keep clear of the razor-keen chef's knife's cutting edge, unless you want some personal flesh in the recipe!
Other makers (mostly factories) grind a series of gouges in the blade surface to do the same thing (clear the blade). They do it with coarse grinders, and the gouges are rough and ugly. The modern factory Santoku is usually made this way.
By drilling and milling (rather than grinding) several advantages are noticed. First, the additional milling has removed unnecessary material and significantly lightened a thicker blade without sacrificing the great strength of this type of blade. Secondly, the release of clinging foodstuffs is easier, as a hole completely through the blade allows air to break the tension. Thirdly, the decorative and custom aspects of the knife are exhibited.
The reason you seldom see holes through the blades of factory knives and other handmade knives is that the steps of drilling and/or milling these holes is an additional production step requiring layout, tool work, machinery, time, and stress relieving process in the heat treat to make sure that the integrity of the blade is sound. Most factories take the why bother approach, and eliminate this step altogether. They still recognize the clinging problem and choose to assign the task of gouging some repeating grooves in the blade surface as a cheaper and simpler approach. By the way, these gouges do not work very well, because they are not deep enough or abruptly machined at the surface (simply lightly ground) and do not release foods as well. Since the factory gouges are washed over along with the blade by surface conditioning abrasive wheels (like Scotch-Brite), they have soft and non-abrupt edges and do not always release soft foodstuffs well.
The one concern I hear is that with holes through the blades, the chef will have trouble cleaning them. One wonders what the chef might encounter that would be difficult to remove from the blade, as most of these knives only require a simple rinsing to clean. Sticky dried fruits would come to mind. Raisins, dates, figs, dried apricots, peaches, and tamarind might cause a problem here if they are forced into these holes. But what are you doing cutting fruits with a master chef's knife like this anyway, and how are those materials forced into the holes? The knife used for cutting fruits should be a fruit knife, like my very popular La Cocina knife design seen all over this page. Thankfully, I do not mill holes in the La Cocina blade, so this is not a problem. When the master chef's knife has milled holes in the blade, all that is required is a rinsing after use. The mindful chef would be doing that anyway in the typical care regime for his blade.
All chefs are different, and I get plenty of requests for milled blades as well as blades that are not milled, drilled gouged, or textured. This is a custom affair, and I make the knife the way the client wants it.
Return to Topics'Saussure' has been in my proud, but somewhat startled hands for over a week now. I really did not expect to own a Jay Fisher knife so soon.
In the brief time that I have owned this knife I have done everything from chopping pork ribs & butterflying a leg of lamb to Julienning carrots & chopping coriander (that's cilantro to you, Jay). Seriously, this knife is excellent. It fits my hand like a well designed tool should and it is always beautifully cool to pick up out of the stand. The control that I have using the standard cutting grip is wonderful and when I move my hand forward into a pinch grip to chop herbs or mince garlic... superb. That extended front bolster should be patented and made compulsory on all chef's knives.
Oh, and did I mention that it is absolutely beautiful to look at? Gorgeous, simply stunning. Sometimes I just pick it up to look at it, to feel it in my hand, even when there's no cooking or food prep involved!
All in all, a piece of functional artistry. No, that's wrong - many artistries - knife work, lapidary, leatherwork, carpentry. They all come together in this wonderful, beautiful, wickedly sharp tool.
Thank you, Jay.
--J.C.
What kind of knife does Jay Fisher use in his kitchen?
From my email response to a client in January 2007, who wondered how his knife might look after use:
I took my favorite chef's knife out
of my kitchen, the one I used this weekend to prepare a huge stir
fry with chicken, a whole Napa cabbage, garlic, onions, cilantro,
Chinese black mushrooms, ginger, broccoli, and spices for my wife
and I and one of our children visiting with the grandkids. This very
same knife has been used to prepare countless meals for years, no,
actually for decades. I built this knife in 1987.

What a main kitchen knife goes through in 20
years is sometimes hard to imagine. I've open packages, chopped
frozen meats, hit bone and pounded it through dry
galangal root, the knife has been washed a thousand times,
been wet for far too long, been scrubbed, even with abrasive
cleaners by visiting chefs or the unannointed, used and abused. I
sharpen it every year or two, which doesn't take long because it's
incredibly thin, and I keep promising myself Ill make another, one
with a more sturdy handle, but my cooking hasn't suffered from not
doing so. I'll probably continue to use it
another 20 years.

The finish on the 440C was mirror when it was new, but it has attained a scuffed appearance that reminds me just how much I depend on it. Even though it's a bit foggy and scratched, it is incredibly easy to clean after all this time; just a rinse is all that's usually required. I don't oil it, wax it, or care for it in any other way than rinsing after using, and the steel shows not a trace of any discoloration or blemish. This knife blade will literally outlast me, and my heirs.
The wood is Honduran Rosewood burl, it's cracked in several places (wood, not stone), and has shrunk a bit, but is still firmly attached. This is a hard working knife + 20 yrs. I thought you'd like to know just how it has fared.
Cook well, my friend, eat healthy, and live long!
--Jay
Mr. Fisher,
It is a honor to have the knife featured on your home page. Brought
the knife to the restaurant today for its inauguration, had one of my
vendors deliver a case of cabbage just for the occasion.
The knife is truly perfect; the Sabatier's, Tichet's and Henckels I
own couldn't hold a candle to Andrimne. I am still amazed I own such a
knife.
Thank you again for everything. Best to you and your family, I will be
in touch in the future.
Sincerely,
C.G.

Just like most of my other gemstone handled knives, I receive a lot of questions about the use of gemstone for custom knife handles. People have concerns. Are they slippery, are they durable, are they expensive? Why would one use gemstones, when no one else does? I'll will answer all those questions in this section.
Reasons: Probably the main reasons for using gemstone in the construction of a chef's knife handle are beauty, originality, and value. Because the materials, effort, and skill required to mount and finish gemstone on a knife tang are rare and difficult, gemstone is seldom used in any knife handle. Therein also lies the value. Nothing synthetic has the appearance and beauty of gemstone, and each piece is unique. Wood also pales in comparison to gemstone. The investment value of a gemstone handled knife always increases at a greater rate than knives handled with more common materials. So, beauty, originality, and long term value are the major reasons I use gemstone on my finer knives, including chef's knives.
Economy is not a reason to use gemstone on the handmade or custom knife. It is not cheap to acquire, work, construct, and finish gemstone, and this is the reason you don't see more of it used in the larger knife world. Specialized equipment and practiced skill are required to properly fit and finish gem, and few artists and craftsmen have the background or practice of a lapidary and knife maker. If you're looking for an economical or cheap chef's knife, you're in the wrong place at any custom knife maker's web site. Gemstone handled knives may raise the quote for each knife from $300 to $1000, depending on the gemstone used. Some gemstone (like fine Lapis and Pietersite) may add thousands of dollars to the cost of one knife.
Mounting: Though you may see pins used to mount many knife handles, you'll seldom see them used in gemstone handled knives. Pins are necessary to stabilize and support wood, horn, bone, and ivory handles, as they have a large propensity to move, expand and contract, absorb moisture and dry, shrink and swell, work loose from the knife tang, and crack. This may allow moisture to accumulate and remain between the handle material and the tang, further accelerating corrosion, perhaps even allowing the entire tang to crack, snap, and fail. Gemstones are mounted in a different fashion; they use hidden pins or mounts, and are bedded to the handle somewhat like a fine gun action is fitted and mounted to a stock. In an effort to display the gemstone faces completely, pins seldom are brought completely through to the surface of the stone. The bedding allows a sealed joint between the tang, bolsters, and the gem material, and since the gemstone does not expand and contract or react to moisture or contaminants, security and longevity is assured. In the several thousand gemstone handled knives I've made, I've never had one of my standard gem mounts fail. Many of these knives have been in daily use for decades.
Grip security may be an issue on chef's knives, as hands may often be wet. Gemstones are usually smoothly polished, so it would seem that the handle might be slippery when wet. Of course, most other finished handles are also finely and smoothly finished, including plastics, hardwoods, and metals. Though there are some materials that get tacky when moist, they are few. So if the issue of grip security is so large, why is it that the industrial standard for knife handles is a smooth finish? With a rough surface, you face the possibility of skin irritation and abrasion on any type of handle material. If you use a knife for twenty minutes a day (a very long time for the home chef), you probably wouldn't notice the roughly finished handle irritating your skin. But if you are a professional chef who may work with a knife in his hand for several hours a day, you will suffer the consequences and pain of a poor finish and a rough surface texture. I discuss in depth on my Military Combat and Tactical Knife page surface texture verses handle shape, and illuminate why the shape of the handle is more important to grip security than the surface texture.
Many people who ask about slippery knife handle grips refer directly to chicken, and sometimes to fish. Good chefs know well how to handle these two meats and don't complain of slippery hands. How do they do this? First, they handle them carefully. Chicken and fish are best prepped when very cool, even frosty, and they can be sliced with greater accuracy and control. Additionally, good work technique with any knife is key. The hand that is gripping the knife or utensil handle is not the hand that manipulates the food on the board, and thus, the hand gripping the tool is not in contact with the food or slimy. The ingredients are then scooped or scraped into the dish or pan with the knife. Of course, this is prep 101 for most people who are looking at these fine custom and handmade chef's knives.
You can read more details and see many examples of gemstone handled knives on my Gemstone Knife Handles Page. There are more details about Knife Handles, Fittings, Bolsters, and Guards in general on this page.
Return to TopicsDear Jay - just a short note to let you know that my Cyele arrived yesterday and I put her right to work prepping dinner.
My initial impression is one of lovely lines, nice balance, and great artistry in her design and fine craftsmanship in execution. I own a number of custom kitchen blades, and your Cyele is a standout in every respect.
Many thanks, Jay - and my deepest appreciation for your
skill.
--Doug Cremer
Occasionally, I get asked about the construction method of my (and other) kitchen and chef's knives and the possibility of trapping bacteria and contaminating food. This is a hot topic on many people's minds, one that is regularly covered in the morning network television shows, particularly if they have no other worthy news. I always know when things are going relatively well, because the television networks start the "germs on your kitchen counter and cutting boards" segments. They'll make a great show of swabbing various areas and growing cultures in Petri dishes to illustrate the dangers of bacteria in our homes. As always, fear sells best, and they have done their research to know just what you might respond to in the face of fear. It's important to note that the main commodity they are selling in the advertising of these programs is soap, cleaners, and disinfectants. I hope you recognize the process.
No one likes bacteria, though we could not live without them. No one likes a dirty or contaminated kitchen, utensils, implements, or hardware. So where does the knife construction come into play in this discussion?
Most people who ask about contamination and trapping bacteria are concerned about pockets, voids, recesses, joints, and shapes of the modern chef's knife, and the possibility of those areas trapping and holding debris that will foster bacterial growth. They may even claim that integral or one-piece knives are superior than bolstered and handled knives because there are no voids or seams. This would be a worthwhile argument if these tools were being used to perform surgery in a sterile operating room, but, after all, this is a kitchen. Here are some points to consider:
Obviously, this could get ridiculous. If one dwells on the subject too long, he'll chance the conversion to an obsessive-compulsive personality disorder like an eccentric billionaire, confining himself to darkness in a Las Vegas penthouse and counting and arranging his peas on the plate while insulating his flesh from the world with layers of boxed tissue. Bacteria exist. Keep your home, your kitchen, and your utensils clean and dry them after use. Just to sooth your fears though, here are some points about my own knives:
If you're still worried about this whole contamination thing, take a coarse bristle brush to your fingernails with a generous dose of surgeon's anti-bacteriological soap. Then do it again, and again, and again... okay, one more time to be sure-
Return to TopicsA client sent me an article clipped from the New York times about knife sharpening and the legendary skills of the Japanese in making blades and having a better cutting edge. It was the usual knife hype from a mass-market industry, and I evaluated and wrote:
Hi, B. Thanks for the article clipping. It's interesting how little people actually know about the cutting edge. There is no mystique, no legendary knife style or unique quality necessary for a very sharp, very long lasting cutting edge. It's simple, really: the blade behind the cutting edge must be as thin as possible, and the sharpening angle as low as possible. There are other considerations, of course, being the type of steel, and the geometry of the grind, and the intended use of the knife. Chef's cutlery is ground as thin as is reasonably possible. In some ways, the chef's knife is one of the toughest to make by hand, and I grind them incredibly thin. I also use a hollow grind, something you will seldom, if ever, see in a factory chef or kitchen knife. Factories flat grind the thin blades on automated machines, and though the flat grind is initially sharp, it will get much thicker with the first and successive sharpenings. I detail this on my Blades page here
When I got into knives, I looked for the ultimate resource on the cutting edge. What I found was a man who had made a living for over 35 years as a sharpening consultant to the textile and meat packing industry. Now in industry, these guys don't screw around. They don't have time for confusing and mystical gimmicks or hyperbole. They must have the sharpest cutting edges, for the longest time, with a technique that is clear, maintainable, and very sharp. If you've ever seen the "line" at a packing plant, it is an amazing thing- the people are whipping meat off the bone at an incredible pace! The knives are super-razor keen, and they wear special Kevlar or stainless steel cut-resistant gloves for protection from the blades. In textile plants, razor sharp wheels, shears, and blades cut through thousands of miles of materials, without snagging or tearing. This guy advised them on how to maintain their cutting edges. His name was John Juranitch, and he wrote a good, short, concise book on what he knew. It's called "Razor Edge Sharpening" and it's available on his website (at this link). They also sell gadgets on their site that help you maintain that sharpening angle, but I don't recommend them on a custom knife, because they clamp on to the spine of the knife and can mar the finish. But the resource and technique is worth it, and that's why I recommend Juranitch's book on every knife care sheet I supply with every knife. I can't live long enough to have the experience this man has had sharpening blades, so I use what he learned.
About the companies selling kitchen knives: these types of knives are a big volume business. They rely upon continuous sales in a pretty low end market. There is a heap of competition in what they do, so the only way they can be successful is by selling more units at a higher price than the competition. So, the industry relies upon an immense and embarrassing amount of hype. There are no 'legendary' kitchen knives, anywhere in history, no matter what they say. Here's a comparison: In the days of old, the musicians, jesters, actors, and entertainers were some of the lowest class, lowest paid, taking bones thrown from the King's court as payment for their services. Today, they are hyped by our culture and media's hunger for dollars to a point of absurd payment for their services, some have become "idols." Is their talent really that precious? Or is it a twisted part of capitalism that has somehow skewed our values? The same can be said of kitchen knives. Kitchen knives are common, mostly cheap and every household has them, but somehow these companies try to hype the quality of their cheap knives for a greater return.
Here's a prime example from the article: the difference of having a relief angle and edge on one side of the blade is not some great advantage to the end user of the knife, its one of savings in manufacturing! It's cheaper and simpler to take a thin blade blank, put a relief angle only on one side, cut your machining expenses in half, and then hype it up as some great benefit. It makes no difference whether the compound angles come from one side or two, a low angle is possible with both methods, and thus, there is no sharper knife. What it says to me is that these Asian cutlery firms are competing with the dominant German firms for moderately priced kitchen cutlery, in a world where people are starting to realize that they don't want a "Ginsu" kitchen knife sitting on the counter of their very expensive and important kitchen. That's where fine custom knives come in. Factories can't even come close...
Want to learn more about the astounding differences between factory knives and fine handmade and custom knives? I've dedicated a special page to this topic.
Evening Jay,
I wanted to give you a proper testimonial now that I've had time to use Sirona at work for a day.
I couldn't wait to bring out Sirona at work, everyone noticed the shining mirror polish immediately
while I was getting ready to small dice about 150 tomatoes to keep the restaurant stocked for the day.
Sirona was well up to the task. The knife felt like an extension of my hand, and the extra weight
also feels good, knowing that I'm not using some flimsy piece of carbon steel that I'm so used to.
After seeing in person how good a knife could be, my first thought was that I can't wait to order
my next two! It was a pleasure to speak with you on the phone and I look forward to doing business
with you in the future.
--A.
From one professional to another, I get asked continually to make professional chef's knives for the professional chef. This is a very important service that I offer here in Enchanted Spirits Studio, in both sole authorship knives and collaborative works with Rusty Russom, who is an experienced professional restaurant chef as well as a professional knife maker. This is one of our most important duties and skills: to be able to take another professional's design ideas and preferences and build them into the tool that he will use daily in his trade and passion. Like my combat knives, I take the commissions and trust of the professional chef seriously, building the chef the very best knives possible. A good portion of the knives you see on this page and the related pages on the site are for professional chefs.
The great thing about working with professional chefs is their ideas, input and passion for their art and craft. Since they use knives probably more than any other accomplished trade, they have a special and deep relationship with their tools. They have given me great insight over the years as to what constitutes the very best chef's knives, whether for general use or for specific tasks in the full service kitchen. These ideas, designs, patterns and features are then not only incorporated into their knives, but also offered to other clients as well, just as my combat and tactical knives benefit from the input of serious combat and rescue professionals. This relationship between the metals and tools artist and the professional who uses his knives to feed his own family through his daily passion and art is very old and honorable, and I'm proud to carry on this historic tradition.
Though there are many kitchen and chef's knives in the world, and many claim to be the top of the line, the best, and the finest, please take a very close look at those claims, the knives, and the company or person who offers them. Most of what is offered for kitchen, professional, or chef's use is clearly cheap and low grade. Even the so-called best standards of the chef's knife fare pale and wither when compared to a truly fine handmade and custom knife by an experienced craftsman with decades of practice making fine knives. The makers or manufacturers may claim superiority by nebulous historic relationships to old warriors or practices of the past or they may claim that the knives originate in the classic European guilds or locations that were once revered for the finest cutlery (but no longer exist). You may see claims of superior and yet mysterious steels and processes, but know this: most of the chef's knives and kitchen cutlery made in the world today is made in China, Taiwan, India, and Pakistan, no matter who claims to historically run the manufacturing firm. Of special interest seems to be Japanese knives, which are poorly made, stick-handled pieces of hammered plain carbon steel; the very worst type of knife for the kitchen. More on these on an upcoming page on the site.
Compare this to the artist and craftsman who works with the finest, highest alloy ultra-modern tool steels and practices, a craftsman who is responsible for every component, piece, part, operation, and interaction of the custom knife experience, and you cannot ignore the glaring truth that the very best knives made in the world are made in the modern metal artist's machine shop and studio, not in a foreign manufacturing plant. It is my goal to pull back the curtain on knives and the knife industry in very specific, clear, and definitive language, without any hype, mystery, or claims of historic relationship to once-great industries or traditions. On this very page, I go into great detail to clarify what makes a very fine knife compared to a factory or lesser knife, and it should then be clear to anyone who has read this that today, the very best knives in the world are handmade.
Sadly, many of the finest chefs in the world do not use the finest knives. Since the price of these fine knives are well within their reach, there are several reasons why they may not acquire and use the finest knives:
If you are a professional chef reading this, please consider the role a fine knife or fine knives can play in your profession. If you do not order a knife from me; that's fine, but please consider getting just the knife you want from another custom knife maker who can answer your questions and build you a knife suitable for your passion, your life's work, and your career.
Return to TopicsI consider it very important to have worthwhile evaluations of chef's knives by the professionals who use them. You'll see several of those on this very page, and just below, I've included a highly detailed knife evaluation of "Cybele," a boning and fillet knife owned by Ulises Magana. He's been kind enough to give detailed points about the Cybele, and honored to consider all the specific points in upcoming projects. It's extremely important to knife makers to encourage this conversation and continue to grow in their pursuit of the ultimate professional and investment knives. Since we, as knife makers, do not have the experiences of a chef, nor can we in the short time we are alive, it's critical to continually evolve and improve our service and our potential. Otherwise, all we will offer is what everyone else is making, the 8" Sabatier with three rivets in the handle.
Hello Jay,
I have been using Cybele, holding Cybele, and trying to learn how it was created (specially its edge) by observing.
This is a review of your knife; one of many. To give only one would be a ridiculous insult, it is not a meal that
is eaten and then gone and remembered (I will probably never have a chance to remember this blade of yours and mine,
because it will outlast me). While both a meal and a knife can be masterpieces, the time in which each is experienced
is different. I am glad that you exist.
When I opened the FedEx package I was confused at what I was holding in my hand. Heavy...well heavier. I held it for hours before I cut anything with it, I slapped the blade against my hand, knocked it with my knuckles. I had never experienced a knife made of this steel before. Nor one made this well. Its shape still confused me though. It felt the most natural when held in a forward grip I was unsure if the handle was any good at all. I held my other knives in comparison and soon I started to dislike them. The knives I had had so much experience with and had done things so well with, were nothing in comparison to the cuts full of finesse I was making with Cybele, a knife I had never played with.
I wasn't having to accommodate for the knife, finally the knife was doing as I commanded. I will send you a video so you can see Cybele in action. I have broken down many fish, and I am waiting for a good sized opportunity to test how it will do with a large one (TUNA :) ), since its design is better suited for that. As a Chef knife it falls short because of its height, the amount of clearance in height for your fingers between the edge beginning after the choil and the belly of the knife, and its pivot point has a significantly decreased edge sharpness. Usually with a Chef's knife because it is quite large and tall you are able to easily curl your fingers and rest your proximal joints against the side of the blade. With Cybele this is not possible and the alternative is to rest the top surface of your intermediate phalanges at about 110-120 degree angle. This is not bad but it is not the most desirable for someone like me who can go a great speeds with a knife; the upward force exerted against my fingers can sting and burn from the rubbing. But, I experienced this from the up and down rubbing against my joints from larger Chef knives so the trade of is not bad.
I am a small guy, I am 5 foot 5 inches. My hands are small my fingers are not thick, and I bump or squish my fingers against the cutting board when trying to use the full length of Cybele's edge. Since Cybele has a curved blade the percentage of the actual edge that comes in contact with the surface of the cutting board is about 33%. A percentage similar to this is inherent with almost all cooking knives, but with Cybele in order to use the last third of the cutting edge the handles rear quillon needs to come down millimeters away from the cutting board. This does not leave enough room for my fingers. So, I have to remove them from the belly of the knife and switch to a glide grip (where the blade is held by the sides), again not bad; but not Great. Then, usually the Chef's knife pivot point is at the tip of the blade, in Cybele there exists two pivot points (the stinging trailing point (I think that's what its called) and the transition point/tanto blade ) The one usurping the traditional tip of a Chefs knife is that transition point; it is not as sharp as the rest of the blade. Dragging the knife along this point can cause ripping and not cutting of food stuff (though I see that the primary edge was continued farther up well into the beginning of the secondary edge).
-8/12/12
I wrote the previous paragraph thinking I understood Cybele having used it. But, cutting with it is a delightful experience. Every cut is
exact, every slice is even, every dice looks like it was machine cut, and every piece of food minced has absolutely defined borders. Cybele
is not the sharpest, fastest, thinnest; but overall it is the best by very very VERY far.
Usually you would expect to teach the blade. Use it wear out the edge, train the edge, smooth in the middle from wear and deliciously sharp
at the tip from occasional wear. The change in
Cybele's edge is the least detectable that I have ever experienced. Knives to me are like nails to fingers, I can feel exactly where every
part of the knife is. I have never had a blade with such a great fit. I hate hidden tang blades for this reason (but
I'll hold my tongue since I have not had yours), the transference of force is not good. Often the transition and loss of force from blade,
to handle, from handle to hand is to great. Even with full tang forged blades I have never had such great transference of energy. I was
never a butcher, and I now am able to crack atoms and see inside them with Cybele.
It is a very releasing experience to use Cybele while cooking because the blade has tamed me, Cybele has taught me. I am incredibly fast and precise with every knife that I own, but I have never felt the need to slow down and enjoy the cut. A lot of the problems I faced with my fingers not having enough space were almost all gone because I reduced the speed of my cutting.
All my blades have "para aprender" etched on them that only I can see, Cybele is the only blade that has it physically engraved. The reason for it being written in Spanish is because of its double meaning; for the sake of learning and for learning with (meaning Cybele is a tool to be used for learning).
-9/6/12
Thank you so much, I want to continue ordering and working on the rest of my future knives with you. It is a great feeling to come home
tired as hell from a 16 hour shift and go to my kitchen and cook for even longer and more enjoyable hours than ever before. I want you to
do me a favor, if you will allow it; every time I purchase potential (a knife) from you I want you to put my full name on the page of every
knife that I purchase from you. I am a proud owner of your work!
We need to have a long talk as to how this project of mine is going to come to fruition.
thank you,
Ulises Magana
The interest in my chef's knives has always been high, and continues to grow. I'm thankful for all the people, chefs, and culinary artists who have been my patrons, every day. In an effort to supply some of these knives in a shorter time frame, I've started a new program with my son-in-law, Rusty Russom, here at the Enchanted Spirits Studio. Read more about this expedited program on Rusty's dedicated page on my website, and please consider his unique and special talents and our collaborative knives for your culinary knife purchase. Thanks!
Yesterday my buddy took his Grady White 60 miles off the coast to Blue Fin
Tuna Fish (something very difficult for U to do in N. M.). He caught a 94# Blue Fin Tuna.
He brought it to me to butcher. I as U know have a new Chef’s knife!
It performed all the tasks of Gutting, skinning, deboning, and trimming without
requiring even one sharpening.
Wow!
--B. M.
Rusty and Jay,
When I first saw my knife in person I was blown away, it is exactly what I needed. It's
sturdy, strong, sharper than a razor and holds an edge perfectly. It is the all around
knife that in my nearly two decades as a chef I have never before had the pleasure of
owning. Words cannot express how pleased I am. You are true craftsmen. I'm truly honored
to possess this amazing piece of art. I can't wait to start another project with you both
in the very near future.
Thank you.
--D. K.
You will notice a lot of sheaths with the knives on this page. Conventional wisdom is that a sheath knife is for the "field." The truth is, a sheath protects the knife and the owner. If you're going to store your knife in a drawer banging into other knives and kitchen tools, your expensive custom knife is going to get dinged, have the edge dulled, and get torn up. The sheath will offer protection. The worst enemy of a knife is another knife and other metal kitchen tools.
Also, many of the knives shown are
dual purpose, that is both utility knives and chef's knives. Some are well
suited to boning, dressing, and carving. Some have more elegant displays. There
is no "rule" about knives, and some of my clients insist on taking a fine sheath
knife to even the best restaurants, where all they have to offer to carve a
thick steak is a worn-out thin stainless steel spring saw the restaurant calls a
steak knife.
When the knife owner pulls out his fine custom knife, people at the
table (and sometimes other tables) beg him to use it when they see it glide
through the meat. Some of the knives have blocks or stands, some have
sheaths. Some sheaths are kydex, some are leather. Protection for the owner and
the knife is important, and sometimes a big bulky counter block takes up just
too much precious counter space. Since this is a custom affair, I
strive to make the client just exactly what he needs and wants.
Read details, see more pictures of these fine boning, carving and fillet knives on special pages here and here
Return to TopicsWhile many different knife shapes can be used in the kitchen and the type of knife varies from chef to chef, there are some standards that have proven track records in the art of cooking and meal prep. These are usually recognizable knife shapes, but not always. There are no rigid rules about what knife to use for each task, so the variety can become bewildering. In my 390+ knife patterns, certain knives have been specifically used by chefs, many other blade and handle designs are used by cooks, but span type styles for other uses. The thumbnail group below gives a general idea of knife styles that are applicable in the kitchen, from fine chef's knives to designs that cross over into other uses. If a dedicated page is available, it will be linked at the caption below the thumbnail photo. Please contact me if you are interested in any fine custom, handmade chef's knives.
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